I would welcome an open discussion with John Degen, if he is honestly interested. We can discuss some of the advantages of using business models that don't ever charge per-copy royalties at all. It will also be interesting to explain why someone who has licensed their work royalty-free under a Creative Commons license would then not want a royalty-collecting agency to be collecting royalties for these same works.
There is now a feature article on p2pnet that forms part of this conversation.
See also: Slyck