Read: [next] [previous] message[d@DCC] Supreme court cases: will we get clarity, or more confusion?From: Russell McOrmond <russell _-at-_ flora.ca> Keith, (or others in the list) Have you been following the various copyright related cases in front of the supreme court? I haven't seen a complete list, but know that it grew from 5 cases recently to a few more. Would love to hear summaries, including how people wish they would go (what would make for good policy, separate from what they think the SCC might rule based on existing law). Few I've heard of (and my attempt to find the right case in the SCC site -- I may have got these wrong) Alberta (Minister of Education) v. Canadian Copyright Licensing Agency (Access Copyright) http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/case-dossier/cms-sgd/sum-som-eng.aspx?cas=33888 - Deals with "fair dealing" Rogers Communications Inc. et al. v. Society of Composers, Authors and Music Publishers of Canada http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/case-dossier/cms-sgd/sum-som-eng.aspx?cas=33922 - Back to the Tariff 22 stuff, and communication to the public of music Entertainment Software Assn. v. Society of Composers, Authors and Music Publishers of Canada http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/case-dossier/cms-sgd/sum-som-eng.aspx?cas=33921 - online distribution of video games that contain background music. This one should be interesting, as SOCAN is trying to treat the online distribution of software containing music the same as a radio communication of music. It's IMHO an insane idea, but one where I wouldn't want to guess where the SCC will go on it. This is one where modernisation of the act itself may be needed to create better definitions around video games/etc. Waiting for a ruling on this, and determining what the right outcome should have been, may be something that will delay C-11. Hopefully they will do this given it may be decades before we see another substantive copyright bill because governments like to do ugly massive omnibus bills and then pretend the issue goes away.. Society of Composers, Authors and Music Publishers of Canada v. Bell Canada http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/case-dossier/cms-sgd/sum-som-eng.aspx?cas=33800 - Are previews part of fair dealing, or something that will be tariff'd Re: Sound v. Motion Picture Theatre Associations of Canada http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/case-dossier/cms-sgd/sum-som-eng.aspx?cas=34210 - Similar in some ways to the video game case, where the soundtrack is being treated as separate from the movie by a music collective. I thought part of the authorising the music to be added to the movie/game/etc was that the music would then be considered part of the whole work (and subject to the rules of a movie), and that the music wouldn't be considered separately this way. Unfortunately the act defines a sound recording to exclude "any soundtrack of a cinematographic work where it accompanies the cinematographic work", but doesn't clarify whether a video game is simply an interactive cinematographic work. My hope is that these cases will provide clarity to a question I've had for years about what P2P or other online distribution of music is. http://www.flora.ca/documents/p2p-legal-theories.html Short-form: "Theory 1: P2P as a "communication by telecommunications", where a copy is kept by recipient." "Theory 2: P2P as simple "copying", similar to if physical media had been loaned." The music industry would fair better if theory 1 was adopted, while the record labels would remain in control if theory 2 were adopted. The labels have been quite successful in lobbying for theory 2, and their ongoing ability to pick-pocket composers and musicians. The worst case scenario, and something that may be part of these cases, is that it is both -- meaning that there is multiple overlapping-yet-conflicting legal theories that will all be demanding permission and/or payment for the same activity. -- Russell McOrmond, Internet Consultant: <http://www.flora.ca/> Please help us tell the Canadian Parliament to protect our property rights as owners of Information Technology. Sign the petition! http://fix.c11.ca/petition/ict/ "The government, lobbied by legacy copyright holders and hardware manufacturers, can pry my camcorder, computer, home theatre, or portable media player from my cold dead hands!" _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss@list.digital-copyright.ca http://list.digital-copyright.ca/mailman/listinfo/discuss Read: [next] [previous] message List: [newer] [older] articles You need to subscribe to post to this forum. |