Re: [d@DCC] DCC on Wikipedia.

From: "Scott Elcomb" <psema4 _-at-_ gmail.com>
To: "General Copyright Discussions (questions, organizing, etc)" <discuss (at) list.digital-copyright.ca>
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:42:06 -0400
References: <46C8E0F2.8010209@TelecomOttawa.net>

On 8/19/07, Charles MacDonald <cmacd@telecomottawa.net> wrote:
> Russell tried to start an article on DCC on Wikipedia.  Since he is a
> principle of the site, the first thing that happened was it was flagged
> as "self-promotion"
>
> There are some interesting items on the talk page about what "should" be
> in such an article, but of course following Wikipedia rules .  they ned
> to cite sources and all that good stuff, and russell is effectivly under
> estopel to edit the article.
>
> the talk page is at:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Digital_Copyright_Canada
>
> I used my judgement as a wikipedia editor to remove the PROD for
> deletion and sugest that if anyone objects that it should go for AFD.
>
> I thus also leave myself basicaly in estopel.
>
> ANyone on the list ho has had previous edits is urged to fill out the
> article beofre the expected AFD.  Anyone with a list of citations on
> things - paricularly connected with Bill -c-60.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_C-60
>
> new editors are also welcome but will find that wikipedia can be more
> filled with red-tape than the federal governement.

Some points and questions:

1 - This reminds me of a post in which Russell discussed an
un-publication via Google.

2 - A quick define: estopel on google suggests that estoppel is the
correct spelling.  ;-)

3 - When is the AfD (Article scheduled for Deletion - had to look that up too)?

4 - A quick look on the discussion page suggests that citing
"mainstream media" sources would be "a good start."  I personally
believe this is BS - "mainstream media" exists to sell information.
Academic sources, fine.  Mainstream media - no way; that's a
"poluarity vote."  (Perhaps it was once different, but after losing my
brother late last year and watching the media circus that descended
upon my family, I can say, first-hand, that "public interest" comes in
second place for "mainstream media.")

5 - I can't afford to commit to becoming even a part-time WP editor,
but would be willing to offer research assitance to such.

6 - What personalities are connected to DCC that might be able to
offer some "mainstream media" assistance?

This is truly sad - I've seen considerably worse articles on WP before
but this is the first AfD I've run across.  I use Wikipedia almost
daily.

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