Re: [d@DCC] Federal Identity Program violates patents?

From: Richard Pitt <richard _-at-_ pacdat.net>
To: General Discussion <discuss (at) digital-copyright.ca>
Cc: CANadian OPENsource Education and Research <discuss -_at_- canopener.ca>, GOSLING Ottawa <ottawa-gosling -_at_- flora.org>
Date: 20 Jan 2003 09:40:56 -0800
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0301201200160.14801-100000@calcutta1.flora.ca>

Hmmm... filed in 1999

And my FrontPage 97 does exactly that

bogus is putting it mildly

richard

On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 09:15, Russell McOrmond wrote:
> 
> 
>   In what could be a very amusing situation, the Government of Canada may
> be violating "yet another questionable patent" with their Federal Identity
> Program (FIP).  FIP, in conjunction with the Common Look and Feel (CLF),
> define what government of Canada sites are intended to look like, and how
> they are to navigate.
> 
> 
>   In the FIPS "Sample Layout Grids", they demonstrate a layout showing
> buttons on a left column that are intended to be kept for every page:
>   http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/si-si/fip-pcim/7.1/51_e.html#3
> 
> 
>   While I don't believe this patent has any merit (along with most 
> patents, and especially any business model or software patents), this type 
> of layout appears to be covered under "US Patent no. 5,933,841 entitled 
> ``Stuctured Document Browser''".
> 
> 
>   Maybe it will be the FIPS folks that will finally talk to the
> Intellectual Property Policy Directorate
> <http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/SSG/ip00001e.html> to get them to clarify
> patentability such that this type of patent nonsense will not apply to
> Canada.
> 
> 
> Bogus patent is at:
> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,933,841.WKU.&OS=PN/5,933,841&RS=PN/5,933,841
> 
> ---
>  Russell McOrmond, Internet Consultant: <http://www.flora.ca/>
>  Any 'hardware assist' for communications, whether it be eye-glasses, 
>  VCR's, or personal computers, must be under the control of the citizen 
>  and not a third party.   -- http://www.flora.ca/russell/
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:49:32 +0100
> From: Bernard Lang 
> To: patents@liberte.aful.org
> Subject: [Patents] trivial use of frames is patented
> 
> 
> 
> SBC Communications claims they own Patent on Internal links and Includes,
> threatens to sue the little guys first, then move to the big guys.  
> 
> We received a 40 page package from SBC Intellectual Property today
> informing us that our web site - which has links on the left side that go
> to other web pages within the site - but does not lose the left side
> navigation links - was in violation of their  ?Structured Document Browser?
> Patent. 
> 
> 
> see http://www.museumtour.com/sbclawsuit.html
> 
> 
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