Read: [next] [previous] messageRe: [Cdn-DMCA] DVD cartel examples soughtFrom: Russell McOrmond <russell _-at-_ flora.ca> On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Tom A. Trottier wrote: > We need examples of what's wrong, not what should be. I guess you're > saying most DVDs and players are examples of what's wrong. The fact that there is no alternative player market, and that DeCSS is illegal to use according to the DMCA, is a core part of what's against the Canadian Competition Act. For the argument I am making, it is the USA's DMCA itself that makes the DVS-CCA illegal under section 77 of the Canadian Competition Act. The regional encoding then becomes an "additional complaint" above the section 77 complaint. I am an example of someone who wants to purchase/rent DVD's (specifically North American ones), but does not want to purchase a DVD-CCA controlled player. I already have the hardware to play DVD's, and can go to a variety of places to download the right software for my Linux computer: Examples: http://linuxvideo.org/ http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/ - GPL player http://kdvd.sourceforge.net/ http://rachmaninoff.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/dvdview/ http://www.prout.be/dvd/ - tool to ignore regional settings etc. Considerable information can be found at http://www.opendvd.org/ , and includes references to the problem from a US perspective. Also see http://www.lemuria.org/DeCSS/ which includes very interesting and relevant information, including: A smoking gun - read this WIPO document (.pdf format) for some interesting information straight from the horse's mouth - a Time Warner analyst and a DVD CCA lawyer. It clearly refutes most of the claims made by judge Kaplan and the MPAA and tells a quite different story. Part of what we can do at a later point is put together materials on the Canadian situation, including a stronger push to get Industry Canada to do this investigation if they don't move forward with what they have so far. For me the first issue is this: I can't just purchase/rent a DVD and play it as the DVD-CCA is using the DMCA to disallow me from using DeCSS to play the video. This is something that would normally be fully protected and legal under "fair dealings" rights. > Perhaps we need a person, an individual, who is personally affected, > perhaps because she bought a DVD made in England that won't play on > her player. No DVD-CSS encoded video I can purchase/rent anywhere can play on my Open Source/Free Software based Linux computer legally. I am left with few options: a) Purchase a proprietary player (eithor bundlede with hardware as most consumers are purchasing, or a proprietary player for my Linux computer). b) Risk going to jail under DMCA for exercising my "fair dealings" rights and running DeCSS to file-convert from the CSS encoded CD to a file format I can view. c) Only purchase videos not encoded in CSS - http://www.videolan.org/freedvd.html > Or a video store which can't get particular DVDs that will play here. > > In other words, a practical complainant rather than a theoretical > one. This only deals with the complaint of regional encoding when playing on a DVD-CCA licenced player. While we should persue this angle as well, I don't know that it is the one that is really going to catch them (IE: Where the DMCA itself makes the DVD-CCA a cartel). Regional encoding is also not my personal immediate complaint given that what I really want to do is rent DVD's (all north american) and play them on existing equipment I have at home. The player I would use would also ignore the regional encoding and play all DVD's regardless of where they were purchased/rented from. --- Russell McOrmond, Internet Consultant: <http://www.flora.ca/> See http://weblog.flora.org/ for announcements, activities, and opinions Oppose DMCA in Canada! (C) reform process.... IP Counter Essay Contest! It is time to mourn and reflect, not anger.... Appeal 'No more violence!' -- For (un)subscription information, posting guidelines and links to other related sites please see http://www.flora.org/dmca/ Read: [next] [previous] message List: [newer] [older] articles You need to subscribe to post to this forum. |